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The Swirl World Podcast

In The Swirl World, we celebrate interracial relationships between Black Women and the diverse men who love us! Join TSW Podcast Producer Adrienne London Leach aka "The Swirl Analyst" and me, Michelle Matthews-Calloway, aka "ASwirlGirl" as we engage in conversations with interesting guests from around the world.  

Come be inspired by the stunning photos of interracial couples showcased on our Facebook page and words of wisdom on Twitter.

We encourage Black women to expand their dating and marriage options by dating and marrying interracially.

Our overarching mission is to see Black women live their BEST lives - regardless of their relationship choices.

Swirl with us!

Apr 30, 2018

Contrary to popular belief, Black women are NOT a monolith. We pursue interests as diverse as our skin tones and hair textures! In today’s episode, podcast Co-host Adrienne London Leach chats with Tobi-Velicia Johnson. A Chicago native, Tobi is a Francophile who speaks fluent French, loves and practices ballet, and...


Mar 19, 2018

Podcast Co-Host Adrienne London Leach chats with digital strategist and author Nancy Gathecha. Nancy is a Kenyan expat living the good life in Bonn, Germany. Nancy helps her clients live their lives by design – not by default. Ready to live? Listen up!


Aug 15, 2017

In the Black community, an unfortunate stigma is attached to mental health issues. The Swirl World Podcast Co-Host Michelle Matthews-Calloway chats with podcaster and interviewer Anita Washington of That Anita Live TV. Anita built a career counseling people in need of emotional healing. She now interviews people...


Apr 10, 2017

Podcast co-host Adrienne London Leach chats with Stacy-Ann Gooden, aka “The Weather Anchor Mama.” Born in Jamaica but raised in the US, Stacy-Ann and her Irish/German husband enjoy life, laughter and love as their raise their two children.


Dec 1, 2016

We receive lots of emails and messages on Facebook. Some of them are real doozies. This email was FIRE: "His White ex-girlfriend called me a gorilla!" The Swirl World Podcast Co-Host Adrienne London Leach provided a video response. This is the audio version of the video. (To watch the video, head over to the blog at